Does anyone else get sick of all us sinners having to get along in one church? Ugh...I am so frustrated and I don't even know what is going on. I thought things were going well. In fact, in my opinion things were improving in a lot of the programs getting more organized, putting more effort into them.
Then I have been catching wind (notice not breaking wind :P) of some things. We have just had 3 deacons resign in two weeks and now one of the adult SS teachers just stepped down. I hate being left in the dark until the dust settles.
What do you think? I don't think it is right to keep the church in the dark about these things until after it is over and the dust settles. Perhaps it is just my busy- body tendency. I don't know!
"But if we are the body.....why are his arms not reaching...."
9 comments:
I think Pilgrim fell apart b/c we were all kept in the dark. And a church Paul & I were members of here in GA fell apart from the same thing. They're rebuilt now, just like Pilgrim, but bigger & way more "out there."
Yes, I totally agree about Pilgrim. The hush hush thing just actually seems to be contributing to gossip! My stomach is just churning about all this. My first instinct is to pack up and run b/c I don't want to have to deal with all this!!!!
hey friend -
i think we take our church for granted i know we aren't told everything but they do well in communicating what needs to be known....we have very biblical church discipline and i think that is why they are so willing to share details - 4 rules of communication is our moto -
1. keep current
2. be honest
3. act don't react
4. attack the problem not the person.
they are all important rules - but the keep current applies to your situation and being honest. eph 4.. we will be praying for you guys! i don't think there is anything wrong with emailing your pastor and asking about it.
Hmmm, maybe you're reacting to a past problem?
I do NOT think that details have to be given. I think what would I want known if it was me.
I've been through situations where people wanted to know all the juicy stuff but it was NONE of their business.
So... I guess I'm on the other side. I believe that what is Biblical and necessary should be shared and then mercy and grace and love needs to be exercised and my "Right to know" may need to be put to rest.
And as a side note--you can be added to the NBBC bloggers by leaving a comment at the blog I linked in that post!
Now let me clarify. We have people who have issues with our pastor. I need to know if there is sin that he is harboring otherwise he is God's man for our church, so we need to support him even if he does things differently than I like. I want to know if this is people being petty or if there is a problem that needs to be dealt with on a church body level.
I'm not reacting to any problem.I wasn't even at Pilgrim when all that happened.
I actually think we brush issues under the table too much. Sin is not dealt with. People just excuse it and the whole church suffers. We have got to concentrate on what is important. Knowing HIM. We can't bring our offering until we have gone first to our brother. Most of these things are stupid selfish issues of..."he's not doing things the way we used to do things" or "he didn't ask my opinion or ask me to participate in such and such". It's not all about us!
Now I believe private sin needs to be dealt with privately. But these people have made this all public by stirring up trouble and grossiping and lying. I believe we need to know the truth after all these lies and gossip have been buzzing around.
No one asked for juicy details, what an offensive thing to say to Monica's honest plea for clarity & communication from the leadership.
the church should know what's going on...some churches do not practice biblical discipline--i hope yours will!
I hope you don't mind me chiming in since I don't know about this situation at all. But Seth and I just went through problems for two years in a church. (he was senior pastor)
I can tell you what would have helped him. If people would have come to him and asked him what was going on. He would have gladly shared, but many times it wasn't something he could share from the pulpit. Also gossip was the major contributing factor. Every issue was magnified because of the gossip. Without that I really believe we would still be there today. (by the way it wasn't a personal sin or anything, church politics, many little issues, some that were from the past that had nothing to do with us. He just stepped in and tried to deal with them as best as he could in his conscience before the Lord.) Hope that helps. (-:
Tania! I am so very glad you chimed in!!!! That is exactly what is going on in my church right now. My pastor has been here only 3 years. He is not in sin and has actually been doing a super job. There were a lot of issue before he came that weren't dealt with.....just wait for everyone to calm down and then not talk about it kind of thing. Well, it hasn't worked. Things are coming back up. It wasn't dealt with biblically at all.
I ended up writing my pastor and email asking him what was going on. I was so very proud of him. He told me only as much as I needed to know without slandering anyone and with no bitterness or guile in his response. I am so grateful for such a godly man. I surely wouldn't have been able to handle this that gracefully.
I think this is all boiling down to people wanting things down the way they want things done....then gossipping about weird insignificant things.
I am so sorry that happened to you guys, Tania. That had to be so hard to go through. But I am so grateful for your insight...see God is using your experience in my life already!!!
I really do appreciate all my friends insights. Even if I don't agree I am so glad that you can share and I can see different angles on a situation!
Post a Comment